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The Dancing Accountant on Canopy’s “Practice Success Podcast”

It always feels a bit surreal to watch yourself being interviewed, but KC Brothers and Gaynor Hardy (Meilke) did such an incredible job with this piece — which Canopy recently released in their “Practice Success Podcast” — that I actually found myself revisiting some important points I hadn’t thought about in a while.

It’s not fluff! They asked real questions about issues affecting our industry: we delved into branding your passions, company culture and how we strive to make our firm more human, what that has to do with artificial intelligence — AND the attention we need to give language and training in a world where AI is an integral part of our worklife.

Three Main Themes, as outlined by the producers: 

  1. Integrating passions and work: The importance of integrating passion and personal interests into professional work, as seen through Nancy McClelland’s incorporation of dancing into her accounting career.
  2. Creating your own brand: Creating a unique brand and identity in the accounting industry, exemplified by The Dancing Accountant firm helps to build relationships with clients and leave a memorable impression.
  3. Benefits & Challenges of AI: The benefits and challenges of incorporating AI and automation in accounting ensure a balance between technological advancements and human skills. This includes improving efficiency and the need for ongoing evaluation and training within a firm. 

And I’m going to add that we talked a lot about company culture and work-life balance as well. We fit a lot into 20 minutes.

It was a great conversation and I hope these themes resonate with you and add value to your day! Find the full episode here, where you can choose your favorite podcast platform: https://ow.ly/vwYQ50QrRRf.

Side note: I don’t think of myself as a “name dropper” — but I do love to share props with the people and tools that make a difference in my life. To that end, this episode (recorded at Joe Woodard & Heather Satterley‘s Scaling New Heights conference) is chock-full of mentors and colleagues such as John Garrett, Misty Megia, Douglas Sleeter, Hector Garcia CPA & Mark Corum‘s RightTool, Blake Oliver, CPA and Questian Telka, EA. If this podcast introduces you to any of these fabulous mentors and colleagues, then I’ll consider it a major win. You can thank me later.

Nancy McClelland Featured on Accounting Insiders Podcast

Check out the podcast on Insightful Accountant’s YouTube channel.

I met the charming and intelligent Christine Gervais earlier this year, having shared an article of hers from Tax Practice News to my LinkedIn feed with my own perspectives. We immediately connected and met via zoom to get to know each other better, compare notes on our practices, and discuss ways in which we might collaborate. (Side note: TPN picked up an important article of mine shortly afterwards due to Christine’s recommendation.)

What an honor that some months later, I was named one of Insightful Accountant’s Top 100 ProAdvisors of the Year and accepted the award at the annual Scaling New Heights conference. I had recommended the jam-packed educational event to Christine, and to my delight, she attended and we met in-person. What neither of us expected was that she ended up being the interviewer in my Top 100 spot with Insightful Accountant, as Tax Practice News is a sister publication.

The question posed was, “if you could start your own practice over again, what would you do differently?” As anyone who has been in the industry — or run their own business — for a while knows, we are constantly making mistakes and learning from them. The goal is not to make the same one twice. So it’s natural to have regrets. But sharing those stories can be immensely helpful to others in the space — whether it’s younger entrepreneurs wondering which next steps to take, or colleagues who feel isolated because they think they’re the only ones who don’t have it all figured out yet.

We had a lovely chat — she’s very easygoing and conversational — and covered the following topics, among others:

  • Hiring your first employee
  • Traits in an ideal team member – intelligence, written skills, ability to learn, detail-oriented, team-player, caring attitude, enthusiasm
  • Interviewing with an eye toward building team culture
  • How teams can collaborate
  • Networking with colleagues
  • Trusting your team and clients to support each other
  • Importance of joining a professional organization and attending conferences
  • Standardizing systems and establishing workflows
  • Teaching accountants and bookkeepers what they need to know to specialize and establish a niche
  • How to find your professional community
  • Identifying and improving processes

I also give a shout-out to a few favorite resources, such as Keeper, AICPA Town Hall series, NATP’s tax education, NSAC and Co-op Professionals Guild, and of course, Bookkeeping Buds.

So check it out! And as always, please give us a like and a comment if you enjoyed it — really does mean so much to us and is very helpful in continuing to reach our audience.


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Conference Alert: The Unique CPA “Bridging The Gap”, Aug 29-30, 2023

I’ve been a fan of Randy Crabtree’s Unique CPA podcast for a while, and though we’ve run across each other at accounting technology conferences here and there, I had no idea that he was so committed to our industry as to hold an entire in-person event for us! The upcoming “Bridging The Gap” conference will be held right near Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport, and promises two full days of education and networking (plus an optional pre-conference).

Especially exciting is the lineup of sessions by some of my favorite speakers, including Dawn Brolin, Nayo Carter-Gray, David Leary, Kellie Parks, Blake Oliver, John Garrett, Paul Hamann, and Gaynor Hardy-Meilke. (I’m sure the other presenters are delightful as well, but this tried-and-true list is GOLD, in my opinion.) Check out the agenda here.

Randy’s conference has been virtual the past two years, and this is the first time it’s being held in-person. The focus is on bringing a fresh focus to work-life balance and how it relates to making us better professionals and people. The emphasis on physical and mental health truly makes this a unique conference in the accounting world. I think this was the claim that got me to click the sign-up button:

And even better… you can use code BTG23RTDISC for $150 off the In-Person Conference ticket!

Just to be clear — I’m not being paid to promote this conference… any of our regular readers already knows that I’m passionate about education and community. Realizing that there’s yet one more opportunity to find both at this under-promoted conference motivated me to share — to make sure that my colleagues know not to miss it. Register here and join me August 29-30. Leave a note in the comments if you’ll be there and we’ll try to connect!


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Happy 21st Birthday To The Dancing Accountant!

It’s true — our little CPA firm is officially old enough to drink, so let’s raise a glass to the wild ride it’s been. 🥂

To celebrate, we are planning an outdoor community event with the Logan Square Chamber of Commerce in early September — more on that in an upcoming post — but to mark the official date of first hanging out our shingle, we thought it would be fun to share a delightful interview with Mark Goldman, CPA on his podcast, “Where Accountants Go”. This episode was released just three days before our 20th anniversary.

Speaking with Mark was a truly gratifying experience — he was kind, organized, interested, and sincere, and asked great questions. As a sneak preview of a few good ones:

  • How did you end up being interested in Music from an education standpoint, and how did you end up moving towards accounting? 
  • At what point did you decide to further your education with the Masters in Financial Analysis and why that particular major?  Was it difficult to return to school?  
  • How has your practice evolved over the years?  I see you use the DBA The Dancing Accountant.  Was that always the case, or did that come later?  Is it related to a niche, or more about branding?
  • You’ve been listed on the 50 Top Women in Accounting list. Congratulations!  How does that make you feel?  Is it acknowledgement of hard work, even more responsibility, honor…?
  • What does the future look like for you if it goes exactly how you would like it to go?  When you look back on your career & life, what will you want to be able to say you accomplished?
  •  If you could go back in time and give your younger self just one piece of critical advice, what would that be?

We spoke for over half-an-hour and I felt like we could have gone on for days… his conversational style was comfortable and disarming. I enjoyed sharing personal stories, talking about the great folks I’ve studied and worked with, about how hard it was to go back to school while working, how much I love helping small businesses in my neighborhood, how much I hate saying “no”, how a client came up with my business name… and so on. Give it a listen — and raise a glass to our amazing team while you’re at it!

I would love to be remembered as someone who helped keep our communities vibrant by helping small businesses succeed. That’s the whole point of any of this, and my staff is a group of women who feel the same way. Our work really has meaning. ~Nancy McClelland, CPA


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IRS Service Issues – What Is Being Done? How Can You Help?

On last week’s AICPA Town Hall they discussed the IRS service issues I posted about recently, as well as the advocacy efforts by the newly-formed Tax Professionals United for Taxpayer Relief Coalition — including the AICPA, NATP, and many other organizations. (Check out their recent media briefing here.)

They were effective in getting a bi-partisan group of nearly 200 members of Congress to send a letter to the US Treasury Secretary requesting the IRS implement the following:

  • Halt automated collections from now until at least 90 days after April 18, 2022;
  • Delay the collection process for filers until any active and pending penalty abatement requests have been processed;
  • Streamline the reasonable cause penalty abatement process for taxpayers impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic without the need for written correspondence;
  • Provide targeted tax penalty relief for taxpayers who paid at least 70 percent of the tax due for the 2020 and 2021 tax year; and
  • Expedite processing of amended returns and provide TAS and congressional caseworkers with timely responses.”

Shortly afterwards, the IRS announced they are suspending a small portion of automated notices — which they clarified on February 9 as “notices of unfiled returns and unpaid balances generally, including a final notice of an outstanding balance and intent to levy”.

The IRS identified the suspended letters and notices as:

  • CP80, notice of an unfiled tax return. The IRS sends this when it has credited payments or other credits to the taxpayer’s account but has not received a tax return for the tax period.
  • CP59, unfiled tax return, first notice. The IRS sends this when it has no record of a prior-year return’s having been filed. The Spanish-language version, CP759, is included.
  • CP516, unfiled tax return, second notice. This is a request for information on a delinquent return for which there is no record of filing. The Spanish-language version, CP616, is included.
  • CP518, final notice — return delinquency. The Spanish-language version, CP618, is included.
  • CP501, balance due, first notice. This letter is a reminder of an outstanding balance on the taxpayer’s accounts.
  • CP503, balance due, second notice.
  • CP504 balance due, third and final notice. This also is a notice of intent to levy.
  • 2802C, withholding compliance letter. This letter notifies taxpayers whom the IRS has identified as having underwithheld taxes from their wages, with instructions on correcting their withholding amount.
  • CP259, business return delinquency. The IRS has no record of a prior-year return’s having been filed. The Spanish-language version, CP959, is included.
  • CP518, final notice of a business return delinquency. The Spanish-language version, CP618, is included.

Per the Journal of Accountancy: “How long the letters and notices will be suspended or at what point the backlog can be considered sufficiently cleared to resume them remains unclear. The news release Feb. 9 said the IRS “will continue to assess the inventory of prior year returns to determine the appropriate time” to start sending them again. And there has been no mention of relieving taxpayers from their obligation to file returns or pay taxes that are the subject of the letters and notices, if those returns and taxes are indeed unfiled and unpaid.”

While this is a welcome step, it falls seriously short of what is needed.

In a recent Op Ed, former National Taxpayer Advocate Nina Olson outlined her suggestions to “fix the IRS”, and the AICPA Journal of Accountancy podcast elaborates on the following four recommendations:

  1. Discontinue automated compliance actions until the IRS is prepared to devote the necessary resources for a timely resolution
  2. Align requests for account holds with the time it takes the IRS to process any penalty abatement requests
  3. Offer a reasonable cause penalty waiver, similar to the procedures of first-time abatement administrative waiver
  4. Provide taxpayers with targeted relief from the underpayment and the late payment penalty for the 2020 and 2021 tax year

The podcast (highly-recommended short listen!) walks through these one-by-one and explains why each is crucial — in a very straightforward manner, providing examples of what kind of struggles real-life taxpayers and their advisors are going through.

A key takeaway: “What we’re trying to do with these recommendations is to lessen the need to reach out to the IRS. In theory, if we’re having to call the IRS less then the IRS will be able to get to people who have other types of problems and get those problems resolved.”

The Washington Post shared an article today highlighting the severity of the IRS backlog and what it means for this tax season.

In testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee on Tuesday, National Taxpayer Advocate Erin Collins noted that as of late December, the IRS had a backlog of 6 million unprocessed individual returns and 2.3 million unprocessed amended individual returns. In addition, more than 2 million Forms 941, Employer’s Quarterly Federal Tax Return, and its amended version remained unprocessed. Many of the latter included claims of the employer retention credit emergency pandemic relief provision.

But all this isn’t enough — they need to hear actual stories from real taxpayers about what you’ve gone through. If you had a challenge with the IRS in the past couple years, and especially if you have an ongoing issue, please contact your Senators and Representatives to tell your personal story. This generally moves them to action, and what we need now is continued and increased pressure on the IRS to make short-term immediate changes that will affect the here-and-now of this tax season.

RESOURCES:
Find your rep: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Members of Congress Twitter handles: https://twitter.com/i/lists/34179516/members
IRS Social Media: @IRS


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