PPP Forgiveness Applications: When To Apply?

Slide from AICPA Town Hall October 22, 2020

In today’s AICPA Town Hall, they reviewed the reasons a business might decide to apply for PPP forgiveness now — even though we have been consistently recommending to loan recipients that they wait until there’s movement from Congress on an automatic or streamlined forgiveness program (and continue to do so).

Basically, unless you are:
1) selling your company; or,
2) potentially violating loan covenants because of the PPP being represented as a liability; or,
3) needing to lay off staff after meeting FTE reduction requirements;
…you should still hold off on applying for forgiveness.

However, if you are in one of the groups above, then consider the AICPA‘s list of “Factors impacting timing of forgiveness application”:
• Has the borrower spent the full amount of PPP funds?
• Is borrower trying to sell the business? See Oct. 2 SBA Procedural Notice
• Is the loan under/over the $150k dollar amount of potential threshold for simplified forgiveness in Congress? (New form for <$50K)
• Has tax planning around timing of deductibility of expenses paid with PPP funds been considered? See Aug. 20 discussion with Ed Karl (AICPA VP of Tax)
• Does the borrower need to make business operating decisions that may include FTE reductions? (See AICPA FAQ #10, below)
• Does borrower want to get PPP debt off the books? Are there loan covenants to consider?
• Is the lender even accepting applications?

It’s important to weigh all of these criteria before making the decision to apply for forgiveness.

And for reference, here’s AICPA FAQ #10:
If a borrower applies for forgiveness before the end of the covered period, how does the FTE reduction safe harbor work in operation?

The instructions for the Form 3508 forgiveness application indicate that the borrower includes the number of FTEs at the end of the covered period OR the date the application is submitted. The SBA has provided information to lenders as follows: “When a borrower submits the completed application and a lender has processed the borrower’s forgiveness application, the borrower is no longer bound to the FTE restrictions. The covered period ends when the borrower successfully applies for forgiveness.”

To summarize: we still recommend, as does the AICPA, that unless you fall into one of the groups above, you hold off on forgiveness applications for now. Work with your CPA to run the numbers to make sure you meet the requirements as they currently stand — knowing they might get easier, but protecting yourself if they don’t — but hold off on the actual application until Congress takes some action, which will be coming eventually… it’s a question of “if”, not “when”.


If this or any other posts on the website were useful to you, and your financial situation permits it, please consider contributing to my tip jar. This allows me to continue to provide free accounting resources to small businesses who do not have the funds available to hire a CPA.

PPP Loan Forgiveness for Co-ops – Webinar 10/22

PPP Loans and Forgiveness: A Cooperative Perspective: October 22 2020
https://nsacoop.org/webcast_details.php?id=288

My colleague Eric Krienert will be teaching a one-hour webinar on October 22 on the topic of the Paycheck Protection Program. This session will provide an overview from a cooperative perspective of loans and forgiveness under the PPP. Beginning with the economic necessity certification, to qualifying expenses, to the spending timeframe and FTE limitation — an explanation will be provided on restoring FTEs and wage limitation before looking at the loan forgiveness application process. The session will conclude with a review of tax and other considerations.

More information on the webinar, as well as registration details, can be found here. The session is free to NSAC members and $56 for non-members.


If this or any other posts on the website were useful to you, and your financial situation permits it, please consider contributing to my tip jar. This allows me to continue to provide free accounting resources to small businesses who do not have the funds available to hire a CPA.

SBA Announces Streamlined PPP Forgiveness for Loans Under $50K

Another late-night guidance drop from the SBA — this time, good news for PPP borrowers of $50,000 or less… and somehow managed without the Congressional action we’ve been waiting for that seems to have all but stalled out.

The SBA has released a new, streamlined forgiveness application for these borrowers (and has eased the burden on lenders as well) — but notably, the requirements are exactly the same as prior to this newest Interim Final Rule. It’s just the simplified application and reduced documentation that make it easier. This means that small business owners still have to meet all the forgiveness rules that were in place before this most recent development — and they must certify as such on the application.

So on the one had, it’s great news — on the other, I’m not sure how much this will help anyone… it’s essential to run the numbers and collect the documentation regardless, to confirm compliance, as well as for support should the forgiveness be audited or challenged.

This also is a far cry short of the “under $150,000” floor that has been introduced by numerous members of Congress. Maybe this is just a start, and it will be increased with a legislative act?

Regardless… because the calculations and documentation must be dealt with despite the shorter application (and kept for your permanent records), I still recommend using the free AICPA tool — PPPForgivenessTool.com — as it does an amazing job of taking care of much of the number-crunching behind the scenes, and turns out an application and supporting documentation pdf packet that should be just the thing for your files. It’s the best PPP calculation resource I’ve tested yet (and believe me, I’ve tested quite a few).

Given the slow pace of SBA forgiveness and the likelihood that there will be more relief coming from Congress after the election, the AICPA continues to recommend that borrowers hold off on applying for forgiveness for now — unless they need to because they’re selling a business or have restrictive debt covenants.


If this or any other posts on the website were useful to you, and your financial situation permits it, please consider contributing to my tip jar. This allows me to continue to provide free accounting resources to small businesses who do not have the funds available to hire a CPA.

Chicago Performing Arts Venue Relief Grant – FREE Webinar Oct 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv3UTm7ATwk&feature=emb_logo

As Republicans in Congress refuse to pass further relief packages for those hit hardest by COVID-19, Chicago announced a new fund to help struggling local performing arts spaces — as it’s currently estimated that 90 percent of live music venues won’t survive without additional support, reported Block Club.

Venues can apply for up to $10,000 from the Performing Arts Venue Relief Program, funded in part by the Walder Foundation and the Arts for Illinois Relief Fund, and in partnership with Accion. The city said 120 eligible applicants will be randomly selected by lottery for the relief grants.

Interested applicants are encouraged to attend an application assistance webinar on Thursday, October 8 from 12:00pm–1:00pm. Register at: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/venue-program-info-session-tickets-123724718965

Eligibility criteria and applications are available at chicago.gov/artsvenuereliefthe application deadline is October 23 at 5pm Central. Grant recipients will chosen via lottery and notified of their acceptance on November 16th.

The program will prioritize funding organizations located on the South and West sides, in LMI (Low and Moderate Income) community areas, organizations that were not eligible for the City of Chicago’s Together Now program, and organizations that have not received grants through the Arts for Illinois Relief Fund, the City of Chicago’s Together Now program, or the 2020 CityArts Large program for organizations with budgets over $2M.

In addition, if you care about live performance, please consider sending this form letter to your representatives asking them to support the bipartisan “Save Our Stages” Act.


If this or any other posts on the website were useful to you, and your financial situation permits it, please consider contributing to my tip jar. This allows me to continue to provide free accounting resources to small businesses who do not have the funds available to hire a CPA.

Chicago Phase 4 Reopening Guidelines By Industry – FREE Webinar Recordings

Recorded webinars for Phase 4 reopening guidance are available online now.

Chicago has moved forward, along with the rest of Illinois, into Phase 4 of reopening.

According to ABC News: Illinois has made progress through its plan for having tiered mitigation for the 11 regions in the state with the potential for increasing mitigation measures based on local resurgences. Regions are currently at the Tier 4 level, with some having additional measures.

Phase 4 of reopening allows for gatherings of 50 people or fewer, restaurants and bars can reopen with limited capacity and restrictions, travel resumes, and child care and schools can reopen under guidance from the Illinois Department of Public Health. Face coverings are required and social distancing is the norm. The Illinois Department of Commerce has issued a pdf of guidelines.

Chicago has a slightly more cautious roll-out of Phase 4 based on a higher concentration of population, risk factors, and cases. The mayor recently announced the next phase of reopening for all businesses, including Retail, Food Service & Bars, Personal Services, and Health & Fitness Centers. The city’s Department of Business Affairs & Consumer Protection has once again held free webinars on the topics and made the recordings available on their site and YouTube.

Recorded Reopening Webinars:


If this or any other posts on the website were useful to you, and your financial situation permits it, please consider contributing to my tip jar. This allows me to continue to provide free accounting resources to small businesses who do not have the funds available to hire a CPA.