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QuickBooks Ledger: Welcome to the Family! We’re Glad You’re Here.

QB Ledger was announced at QB Connect a few months ago.

If you’re like me, March is that special month from hell where clients that have ignored your pleas for four quarters in a row suddenly show up again… and lucky you. Because now they’ve got a new AirBnb rental property in tow! Or yet another side gig! Or even better: an estate that they have to manage until it settles, and it’s caught up in probate!

To be honest, I’ve been slowly weeding these folks out of our client list – and I feel like a jerk about it – but it just doesn’t make sense for us to spend time during our busiest season getting them caught up on a year’s worth of transactions. Especially because these are the same characters that tend to be super price-conscious, and are somehow convinced that because they have a low volume of transactions, they shouldn’t have to pay for the monthly QuickBooks Online subscription – “can’t you just use our bank statements or a spreadsheet?”

For anyone reading this who isn’t intimately familiar with these classic dance moves already – no, we can’t just use bank statements or a spreadsheet. There’s no double-entry bookkeeping, no debits and credits, no Balance Sheet, and far too many potential lurking mysteries to be uncovered only after all the manual data entry is already complete. At some point we put a stop to these shenanigans… only to find ourselves sitting in QB Desktop, doing all the write-up work on behalf of our clients – a total reconstruction job. More reliable, but not less effort. (And moot at this point, since QB Desktop has gone subscription and is slowly asphyxiating.) And yet – I was a tiny startup at one point, too! I get not wanting to spend big bucks on a full-featured bookkeeping package for an activity that’s not earning much money.

By this point we’ve filtered out most of these types of clients, raising our minimum to price out some of the potential clients we really did (in theory) want to help – itty bitty start-ups or serial entrepreneurs, those that can’t resist a good deal on real estate, or people who sadly lost a loved one and are adrift as to how to handle the demands of bookkeeping for the estate. (I did this for both of my grandmothers back in the day, using my accountant’s copy of QuickBooks Desktop. It was not fun, but boy was my family relieved that they had a knowledgeable QB ProAdvisor handy.) But some remained. Clients who we really like who have been with us for ages, or who have another full-on business that we support, or whose side-gig really serves our community and they deserve a break.

(You read the title, right? I mean… you can see where this is going?)

Enter QuickBooks Ledger.

Those who know me know that I don’t mince words about Intuit as a company. They’ve created a core product that I love, which I’ve been using in some form or another since 1993 (oof, that dates me) – but when they cross me (and they do, more than I’d like), I call ‘em out on it. I don’t like the constant price increases (though I do see the constant improvements), nor the aggressive marketing of corollary products to us and to our clients. I don’t understand why they haven’t fixed some basic functionalities we’ve been asking about for literally years. But the only reason I bother complaining is that I truly believe in QuickBooks products, and the ecosystem they’ve built, and that other software companies have built around them. Which is why it was delightful to be there when QB Ledger was announced at QB Connect in November (see photo above), and all the more delightful that since then, I’ve been able to honestly say I’m in love with this new product.

Why? What’s the hype?

Nothing. There’s no hype. That’s what’s so great about it. It’s just plain old reliable QB Online that we know and love, but without all the bells and whistles, and therefore totally affordable for uncomplicated files. It basically strips down the system to the core functionalities but retains the tools that are the most timesaving. And therefore, they only charge you for the basics. It’s $10/month per client.

At this price, and with the connected bank feeds, rules and reconciliation features, we can blow through an entire year of transactions on a cash-basis filer in literally a couple hours, and still make it affordable for the client, while maintaining plump margin for our firm. Since the bank and credit cards are connected, we don’t have to rely on the client for statements before we get started, so we can take care of most of the work well before tax-season begins. In most cases, the client won’t ever need access to the system, because it’s not about managerial insights and analytics – it’s just a compliance engagement that gets us to the point where we can file an accurate return. But unlike QB Self-Employed, this is real accounting software that gives us double-entry accounting, adjusting journal entries, and spits out proper financial statements. And also unlike QBSE, it allows for a full-on easy upgrade should the side-hustle turn into a more full-fledged business, or the real estate toe-dipper turns full-on house-flipper. (And yes, two accountants can be connected, just like the other QBO products, so if you’re not doing CAS and tax in-house like us, you can have a bookkeeper firm and tax prep firm both connected.)

Things to know before you dive in:
– It seems like QB Support staff haven’t all been trained yet on what it can and can’t do, how many and which types of users can be attached, and which use-cases make the most sense, so be aware of that. It’s also sometimes tricky to get the client added (to set up the bank feeds) because the accountant user gets assigned both as accountant and admin; as with other versions, when this happens it can be a pain to switch that over to the client. So, make sure not to check the box to make yourself primary admin when setting it up.
– And… they’ve got a weirdo situation where you can’t use a Customer name anywhere in the file (presumably they deactivated this because there’s no invoicing, which is fine… but we still need that field). I’ve got it on good authority that this isn’t a bug. I suspect this was done with the expectation that those who have customer reporting needs will just upgrade, but I don’t personally think that it will serve the purpose of moving them to Simple Start. They’ll just use an external invoicing or scheduling program to track income by customer instead of upgrading – especially because those third-party apps do in fact create these customers in the app – and then they’ll be hooked on that invoicing feature… instead of tracking things by customer in QB Ledger and eventually upgrading to Simple Start. I have clients in all walks of QBO and there are startups that can’t initially afford Simple Start who will eventually get there… but they’re going to need customers to make that happen. Another workaround: some folks are using the Vendor field with a “-Cust” after the name to get around this.
– And lastly, bummer – you can’t downgrade, you can only start a new QB Ledger file or upgrade that file. (Yeah, they were thinking about all the reluctant clients who we had to talk into paying for Simple Start that don’t actually need A/R and A/P and would be fine on Ledger… really wishing they’d released this version years ago.)

Hector Garcia just released a half-hour complete tutorial on QB Ledger for accountants and bookkeepers, so if you want a deep dive on the specifics, then you’ve found your instructor.

Start-ups, trusts, estates, once-a-year write-up or tax prep clients, small side-hustles, AirBnB and other rentals, your glam diva marching band (ok, maybe my glam diva marching band)… the list goes on. Intuit has finally taken the core functionalities that are the reason we celebrate QuickBooks Online, and packaged them into an affordable option. It’s earning them goodwill, providing a pipeline for future upgrading customers, and will surely make the switch from Desktop to Online more attractive for the masses. For us, it fits seamlessly into our strategy to shift away from once-a-year rush work. For bookkeepers just getting their start, it allows them to take on small freelance and hustle clients. Welcome to the QB family, Ledger! We’re glad you’re here.

(What’s that, you want to learn more about QB Ledger? I knew you were gonna want to know how – so I’ve conveniently set it up for you to check out this page here.)

Note! As my readers know, I am downright fanatical about transparency and full disclosure (often to my detriment, as you may have noticed that I have a wildly popular award-winning blog that is non-monetized). Though this particular post is a paid partnership with Intuit, I want you to know that a) I wanted to write an article on QB Ledger anyway, but couldn’t find the time; getting paid allowed me the break from client work I needed to make it happen; and b) they didn’t edit a single thing when I presented it. In fact, they were totally cool with all my Intuit-bashing… which made me pretty impressed with them, to be honest. I might just do this again sometime. We’ll see.

How to Issue 1099s and W-2s from Gusto Payroll (for 2023)

As a CPA whose company works with loads of small businesses that need to process payroll, I’ve used quite a few payroll systems through the years… and Gusto has become our favorite. It’s not without its quirks and issues, but overall it does a great job for a great price, and — key for the work we do — it syncs nicely with QuickBooks Online, as well as their own Benefits company and with Guideline retirement.

(By the way, our referral link will get you a $100 prepaid Visa card if you sign up and run your first paid payroll before Jan 31st, 2024! Bonus! Happy New Year!)

It seems that for 2023, Gusto has slightly changed the details for how they handle distribution of 1099 and W-2 forms — and so that no one ends up without a copy of their important documents, I am sharing the step-by-step process that we went through for our own firm, in hopes that it helps you manage it in your own small business.

Spoiler alert: the process of DIY-ing (aka creating the packet of 1099 or W-2 PDFs, going to the Tax documents section and finding/ downloading these PDFs, printing them, and mailing them) was enough of a pain that for sure next year I will just click the option to pay $3 per form to have them mailed for me for anyone who hasn’t selected “electronic-only delivery”. But before then, I will contact all my employees and contractors and ask them to please change their preferences to be electronic-only delivery next year, since the thing I would be mailing them is literally a printout of the same PDF that they can download themselves from their Gusto account.

And now — here’s the process I went through, in real time, as I walked through the steps myself.

First off, as the company/ employer, I received an email from Gusto (though it incorrectly stated that these are client tasks, rather than firm tasks) stating that I need to distribute important payroll forms to recipients before the IRS deadline of January 31, 2024.

When I click on the “Let’s do it” button for 1099s, it takes me (after logging in) to the screen below, which notes “If you have us mail forms for you, you can choose to exclude anyone who’s consented to have them delivered electronically.” This is pretty important, as I encourage everyone to accept this delivery method, even if they also request a paper copy. I am curious to see if they make this option clear even if I select “I’d like to download and distribute them on my own,” and will give that approach a try.

After selecting the second option — “I’d like to download and distribute them on my own” (DIY), I get this screen:

And then this screen:

And good news! Even in the DIY version, you can select “Only contractors who haven’t requested electronic-only copies,” which is a real win for everyone. It would be nice if they made that clearer on the first page, and simply said, “you can choose to exclude anyone who’s consented to have them delivered electronically.”

I take that back! NOTE: After going through the whole process (you’ll see this below), I never did get a packet that was just for the electronic-only folks. I was only able to download a packet for ALL employees. I will have to pick out which ones selected paper delivery and only print and mail those. Or I can go into each employee and download the form individually. What a pain! I don’t want to reward Gusto for handling this poorly, but if I could go back again, I’d have chosen to have them mail the ones who set their preferences for paper forms, for $3 each.

I clicked on “Create packet”, and nothing happened. However, this box shows on the right-side, so I’m guessing that’s why:

(I think this could have been handled a bit better by the Gusto programmers.)

Now, if you had any contractors who did not select electronic delivery, you would in theory eventually get a copy of that packet, and use the PDFs of the 1099s that were made available to you by Gusto — you would print and mail them yourself. But in my experience with the W-2s (below), I was only ever able to download a copy of ALL the forms, not just the ones that set their preference to receive a paper copy. Or I could go to each employee and download them individually. Therefore, as I keep saying… if I had this to do over, I’d pay Gusto the $3 per form for just the ones that requested paper forms. And in future onboarding, I’d ask them to set it to “electronic-only”.


Next, we’re going to give the W-2 form distribution a try. I clicked “Home” to get to the main page of my Gusto account but got an error message, probably because as an accountant user, it got confused about whether to take me to my own firm homepage or my client dashboard. So I went back to the original email and started from there. As expected, it brought me here:

And after selecting DIY, it took me here:

After clicking “Continue” it took me to a page that nicely spelled everything out for me:

It turns out that four of my employees have requested paper copies. They may have also requested electronic copies, but since that doesn’t matter one way or the other here, it’s not indicated. (Note to self: ask your team members to select electronic-delivery-only!)

So this time when I clicked the “Create packet” button, I got a pop-up.

I clicked on the “Go to Tax documents” button and it took me to a very familiar screen (since I have to download this information on behalf of clients from time-to-time), with a tab for each type of tax document.

I clicked on W-2s and followed the prompt to download my 2023 W-2 packet — but this turned out to be the entire employer-copy of the W-2 packet. So, I clicked below that on the option to “Distribute 2023 W-2s” — but that just took me back to “Choose how to distribute W-2s” starting page.

To be fair, it did say in the pop-up that they’re creating my packet and would email me when it’s ready… I’ll go check email next.

But first I want to point out that this page also makes it clear in the employee list at the bottom what the delivery preference for each employee is, making it easy for me to make good on my “note to self” above and reach out to those who requested “paper and electronic”. (By the way, my own name is on that list. Sigh.)

It’s many minutes later and I still don’t have an email saying my packet is ready.

At this point, I’m wishing I’d just paid Gusto $3 each for them to mail these for me.

I’m going to sign off on this blog post for now and return to it once I get an email from Gusto. And if I don’t, I will shake my fist at them and ask my team members if I really have to spend $3 each to send them a paper W-2 when they already have a PDF.

Update: I never did get an email from Gusto saying my packet of just the ones that need paper copies was ready. And when I went back in to just pay Gusto the dang $3 each, I got this screen:

So apparently that’s not even an option anymore. Heads-up! (This is the part where I scroll back to the top of my post and give everyone a spoiler alert before starting this process.)

The key takeaway I’d like to share with clients and readers is that you should absolutely, unquestionably go into “Tax Documents” and look at the list of people under the W-2s and 1099s tab to see if anyone chose paper-only (I am presuming that’s an option but do not truly know… because it’s 2024 and who would choose that, anyway). If anyone did *not* consent to electronic delivery, then go spend that $3 per employee. For everyone else, reach out and ask if this is really necessary, and suggest they (myself included, whoops) change their settings — not because the $3 per form is a prohibitive cost, but because the amount of time and energy spent in making that happen (any at all) is simply not worth it in this day and age of electronic communication.

I will leave you with a hilarious poem that a dear colleague of mine shared with me recently.


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How To Add Health Insurance To S-Corp 2%+ Owner W-2 In Gusto

As anyone who’s worked with me — clients, team members, colleagues, vendors — knows, I adore Gusto Payroll. They truly changed my life for the better (not to mention the lives of thousands of small business owners) when they decided to create a tech-forward payroll company that seamlessly syncs with QuickBooks Online.

(Note: our affiliate link will earn you a $100 gift card after you run your first payroll — or up to $500 if you are an accountant or bookkeeper who signs up your own clients. We may earn a commission as well — win-win! For our own clients, we offer a 15% discount in lieu of referral fees.)

I have explained the importance in prior blog posts of making sure that S-Corp medical premiums are properly tracked and reported in QuickBooks and on the W-2 forms for shareholder-employees. The IRS has driven this point home repeatedly, and even has a page devoted to some issues that arise specific to owners of 2% or more of an S-Corp who perform services for the company.

With so many of our own clients using Gusto, I wanted to share how to properly report S-Corp medical insurance premiums, and decided to make the information available to the public as well.

Much of the following information was collected from the Gusto Help section — which is freely available to the public — but as their dynamic support site changes structure and organization frequently, it seemed like collecting the various instructions into one area would be helpful.

Setting up benefits for S-Corp 2% shareholder-employees

For S-Corps, the IRS requires that health insurance premiums paid by the company to employees with a 2% or greater ownership be reported as wages (not pre-tax benefits), and included on their W-2s in Box 1, but not Boxes 3 or 5.

(This means that the total will be taxable for income taxes but not payroll taxes, and once the self-employed health insurance deduction is taken on the personal return, the wages and deduction net to zero — so in effect the corporation will have taken the deduction for the health insurance. More in this blog post and from the IRS here.)

Note: If your company’s benefits are provided through Gusto, they will manage this reporting for S-Corp owners automatically, as long as they are marked as a 2% shareholder in Gusto (under “Employment Details” in the shareholder-employee’s info in the “People” section). 

However, if you offer benefits outside of Gusto (and use Gusto for payroll), then follow these steps to set up benefits for 2% shareholder employees:

  1. Sign in to your Gusto admin account.
  2. Go to the People section and select Team members.
  3. Click on the employee’s name.
  4. Under Employment Details, make sure the employee is designated as a 2% Shareholder.
  5. Under Benefits, click Add Benefit.
  6. Next to Select a Benefit, select “Create New Benefit” from the drop down menu.
  7. Enter a Benefit Name.
  8. Next to Benefit Type, select Medical, Dental, or Vision.
  9. You will have the option to enter a Company Contribution Per Pay Period or Employee Deduction Per Pay Period. (For S-Corp shareholder-employees, this will usually be a company contribution, but check how your plan is set up.)
  10. Company contributions: Taxable at the employee level only, for both federal and state income tax.
  11. Employee deductions: Fully taxable as wages at both the employee and employer level.
  12. Click Save.

As long as the entity is set up in Gusto as an S-Corp and the shareholder-employees that own 2% or more of the company are marked as such under Employee Details, the health insurance premium benefit should be added to Box 1, but not Boxes 3 or 5. You should review your draft W-2 at or shortly after year-end to make sure it is accurate, and contact Gusto immediately if there are issues so they can correct them before the final W-2 is issued and filed with the IRS and SSA.

FAQs about 2% shareholders:

Q: Which benefits must be taxed as wages for 2%+ shareholders?

A: Medical, Dental, Vision, HSAs, and more must be taxed as wages. Refer to Publication 15-B to view all a full list of benefits that are treated as wages. 

Q: What if a 2%+ shareholder status changes part way through the year?

A: Change the 2%+ shareholder status in the employee’s account. Employees who are 2%+ shareholders at any point during the year must be taxed as such for the entire year.

Q: What happens if you need to update an employee’s 2%+ shareholder status mid-or-end year, and they have already received pre-tax benefit deductions this calendar year?

A: If your company withheld health insurance premiums rather than having them processed as 2%+ shareholder — contact Gusto Support, as their team will need to assist within adjusting the benefits, since there are tax implications.


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Partnership And S-Corp Medical Insurance Premiums For Owners: Avoid Double-Dipping

Note: much of the information below was pulled from the old Polito Eppich website — however, they have since merged with another firm to become Magnus Blue, and as such have removed their former blog content. My 2018 blog post linking to their article on how to properly account for partnership and S-Corp health insurance to avoid double-dipping now points to a web archive of the original site — but since that’s hard to find, I’m borrowing some of their material and sharing it here as well. To-date it’s the most well-illustrated and to-the-point summary I’ve seen on the topic.

The IRS rules for reporting health insurance premiums for partnership and S-Corp owners are complex, and as a result, easy to accidentally bungle. Sometimes an entity will incorrectly deduct the premium, and so will the owner — on their personal return — leading to what is known as “double-dipping”. This usually happens when the person preparing the personal return did not also prepare the business entity return.

TL;DR? The most important take-aways are:
1) you can’t double-dip; and,
2) though the particular hoops that have to be jumped through are a) different for partnerships than for S-Corps, and b) a PITA for both, they are in fact the law and must be followed.

The key here is that when the entity pays for health insurance for owners, it is deducted as payments for services to the partners or S-Corp shareholders — who are then entitled to take the self-employed medical insurance deduction — which means it will net to zero deduction on the personal return. If you’re not careful, then the deduction is mistakenly taken on both the entity-level and personal returns. In their original article, Polito Eppich illustrated the accidental double-dipping (all charts are copyright of Polito Eppich).

We will use an example of a $10,000 medical insurance premium to illustrate this issue. Here’s what was happening (incorrect approach):
Income (Expense)Passthrough Business EntityOwner’s K-1Owner’s Personal ReturnNet Taxable Income
Medical premiums paid$(10,000)   
Ordinary income reduced $(10,000) $(10,000)
Self-employed medical insurance deducted  $(10,000)(10,00)
Total effective deduction on owner’s return   $(20,000)
Accidental double-dipping — the $10k premium becomes $20k.
Here is how it should be handled:

PARTNERSHIPS

The actual deduction occurs at the partnership level and is passed to the partner — via lower income on the K-1.

If the partnership pays for the health insurance premiums for its partners, it deducts the expense as guaranteed payments and reports the amount to each partner on their respective K-1s as guaranteed payments.

The partner then picks up the guaranteed payment as income and reports “self-employed health insurance” deduction. The guaranteed payment offsets the self employed health insurance deduction for a net zero effect on taxable income, thus the single deduction described above on the K-1.

(When a partner pays his (her) own medical insurance premiums, the self-employed medical insurance deduction is allowed if there is self-employment income.)

Correct reporting for partnership:
Income (Expense)PartnershipOwner’s K-1Owner’s Personal ReturnNet Taxable Income
Medical insurance premiums paid and deducted$(10,000)$(10,000)$(10,000)$(10,000)
Guaranteed payment to partner 10,00010,00010,000
Self-employed medical insurance deduction (10,000)(10,000)(10,000)
Total effective deduction on owner’s return   $(10,000)
Partnership: by following the IRS rules, the $10k premium remains a $10k net deduction.

S-CORPORATIONS

S-Corps are a bit more complex because owners who work for the company are paid payroll via W-2 (rather than guaranteed payments to partners). Keep in mind that these rules only apply to shareholders who own more than 2% of the company. Owners below 2% are not eligible for the self-employed medical insurance deduction.

The S-corporation deducts the expense as compensation and includes the amount on the shareholder’s W-2 — in Box 1, but not in Boxes 3 or 5, which means they are not subject to Social Security or Medicare taxes (commonly known as “payroll taxes” or “employment taxes”). The amount should also be reported in box 14 of the W-2 — this is only for informational purposes, so that the personal tax preparer knows to take the deduction. Some payroll companies will track this reporting properly throughout the year, but others require a call at year-end to make sure this amount shows up properly in Box 1 and 14. (See my blog post on how to handle this for Gusto Payroll.)

The shareholder reports the compensation from their W-2, then deducts the health insurance amount noted in Box 14 on the W-2 as a “self-employed health insurance” deduction on the personal 1040. Because the amount is subject to income taxes, but not employment taxes, taking the self-employed health insurance deduction leads to a net-zero impact to taxable income. The actual deduction is achieved at the corporation level and passed to the shareholder in the form of lower income reported on the K-1.

Correct reporting by S Corporation for 2% or greater shareholders:
Income (Expense)S-CorpShareholders’s K-1Owner’s Personal ReturnNet Taxable Income
Medical insurance premiums paid and deducted as owner wages lower ordinary income$(10,000)$(10,000)$(10,000)$(10,000)
Owner’s W-2  10,00010,000
Greater than 2% shareholder medical insurance premium (Noted in Box 14 of W-2) (10,000)(10,000)(10,000)
Net taxable income reported by shareholder   $(10,000)
S-Corp: by following the IRS rules, the $10k premium remains a $10k net deduction.

Either way — partnership or S-Corp, the net result is that the amount paid by the company for health insurance on behalf of owners should only be deducted once, on the entity return, and as payments for services. On the personal return these payments will net to zero after the deduction for self-employed health insurance is taken.


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The Dancing Accountant Shares Tips for Building A Remote Team

“Really great interview. I appreciated how the highlights were amplified. Nancy is smart and real. Blake does a great job allowing the interviewee talk and share her knowledge. Well done!”
-YouTube viewer comment

I was honored to be interviewed recently by the one-and-only Blake Oliver for Relay‘s “Gearing Up” series, where every two weeks, he talks to a real accountant or bookkeeper about ONE challenge in their firm — and how to solve it.

In this episode, we discuss how to build a team with whom you love to work (kudos to Bookkeeping Buds for helping me make that happen).

As our firm grew, I realized that building The Dancing Accountant in a traditional way was re-creating working conditions that our team and I didn’t love — it was immensely important to me that above all, we enjoy working with each other.

But first I had to convince myself I had something to offer — and decided to focus on what I knew employees wanted: meaningful work.

In the latest episode of Gearing Up with our host Blake Oliver, I open up about the a-ha moment that led to our building an entirely different kind of remote firm. In the episode, you’ll learn:
💃 Why Nancy is known as The Dancing Accountant
🔨 Nancy’s favorite tool in her tech stack
🧑‍💻 Three things employees want from work
🧩 The non-traditional structure of Nancy’s team

Full 15-min episode here — 📺 https://youtu.be/IigWdOH5G6M

Enjoy, and let me know what you think!


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How To Make IL Dept Of Rev (IDOR) Business Tax Payments Online: Estimates & Extensions – UPDATED

The step-by-step instructions I painstakingly wrote up earlier this year for making business replacement income tax estimated and extension payments are now out-of-date, because IDOR revamped their MyTaxIllinois website in September (grrrrr). So here are the basic instructions (screenshots are coming soon, but this will have to do for now):

— Log into the business’s My Tax IL account
— On the ‘Summary’ tab, look for the ‘Business Income Tax’ section
— Click on the link for ‘View more account options’

There are two ways to do it from here; the first is:
— In the ‘Account Options’ section, click the link for ‘Make An Estimated Payment’
— Select the period you want to pay (which is 12/31/2021 for tax year 2021 — choose a later period if paying estimated taxes for 2022)
— Click the first ‘Add Payment’ hyperlink in the Payment Schedule table for each payment you would like to schedule.
— If your payment information is saved in MyTax Illinois, then in the ‘Choose’ tab you can select the dropdown under ‘Payment Channel’
— Otherwise, select ‘New’ and enter your company bank info.
— In either case, on the right where it says ‘Payment’, you can change the payment’s debit date and enter the amount.
— Click Submit, and re-enter your password for security purposes

Alternatively:
— In the ‘Periods and Submissions’ section, click the link for ‘View Account Periods’
— Click the 12/31/2021 link so that your payment is applied to tax year 2021 (or a later period if paying 2022 estimated quarterly taxes)
— In the upper right corner of this page, click the ‘Make A Payment’ link
— Select the ‘Bank Account Debit’ link
— Click the IL-1120-ST Payment link (ST denotes a “Small Business” payment)
— Enter the amount you want to pay in the Amount and Confirm Amount fields
— Click Submit, and re-enter your password for security purposes

Congrats, you did it!


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PPP2 Opens Today 1/11 – But Only To A Few: Be Patient.

January 11, 2021: The next round of the popular Paycheck Protection Program technically opens today — but only for a very small number of lenders, called Community Financial Institutions. According to CPA Practice Advisor, “To promote access to capital, initially only community financial institutions will be able to make First Draw PPP Loans on Monday, January 11, and Second Draw PPP Loans on Wednesday, January 13.  The PPP will open to all participating lenders shortly thereafter.”

In the finance industry, this is being referred to as the “Soft Launch” of the PPP. The reason for this tiered approach is that these institutions (CFIs), and the disadvantaged businesses they often represent — many of them from underserved communities — were mostly shut-out of the first round of PPP back in April. Brian Thompson published a great article in Forbes yesterday, explaining the details, that I encourage you to read. In short, the SBA is trying to equalize access to business ownership and support for black and brown communities. So if you’re not in one of these groups, today’s opening is not meant for you. Please be patient.

Although only this small group of lenders will be the included in the Soft Launch, unfortunately very few of them will be prepared to take full loan applications this week. These CFIs are generally only accepting applications from their existing customers, and do not have the processing capacity to receive an influx of applications, especially from those outside the communities they serve.

My recommendation is to continue with the strategy that you have already devised — whether that’s working with your existing banking relationship, or with your CPA to apply through a lending portal (I am using the CPA Business Funding Portal, a joint program between the AICPA and biz2credit — more here — you can also use the platform for free to help prepare applications to be sent to clients’ existing lenders).

See my recent blog posts for more information about the details of this round of the Paycheck Protection Program, or how to determine whether or not you qualify.


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How To Look Up The Employee Retention Tax Credit (ERC) In Gusto Payroll

The newest Covid-19 financial relief package was finally signed, and one of the big features is that the Employee Retention Tax Credit (ERC or ERTC) was made available to many businesses that previously were not allowed to claim it, most notably those who accepted PPP loans.

For a wonderful in-depth explanation of the Employee Retention Tax Credit, please see Tony Nitti’s two-part Forbes article:
Breaking Down Changes To The Employee Retention Tax Credit In The New Covid Relief Bill, Part 1
Breaking Down The Changes To The Employee Retention Credit In The New COVID Relief Bill, Part 2
– Part 2 also links to an earlier article of his that goes thorough the details of calculating the ERC according to the 2020 rules.

To summarize the ERC:
• 50% refundable payroll tax credit on qualified wages paid between 3/13/2020 and 12/31/2020
• Claimed on quarterly payroll tax Form 941
• Qualify for quarters with full or partial shutdown due to government order =OR= 50% decline in gross receipts from prior quarter
• Maximum qualified wages of $10,000 per employee during tax year 2020 period
• For employers with 100 or fewer employees, all wages paid are “qualified wages” (different rules for larger employers)
• PPP loan recipients were previously ineligible

Changes retroactive to 3/13/2020:
• PPP loan recipients can use the credit for wages not paid for with forgiven PPP loan proceeds (no overlap)
• Group health plan expenses are considered qualified wages even if no other wages were paid to employee

And the reason for this post — the employer can elect to treat newly creditable wages as paid in the quarter that includes the date of enactment of the Act (4Q 2020) if employment tax returns for prior quarters were already filed prior to the enactment of the Act.

The ERC is also being extended and expanded — but that’s beyond the scope of this blog post. A quick summary of what’s to come:
The credit availability is extended to wages paid through 6/30/2021 and the following changes will apply:
• Credit rate increases from 50% to 70%
• Maximum creditable wages increases to $10,000 per employee per quarter
• For employers with 500 or fewer employees, all wages paid are qualified wages
• Qualifying gross receipts decline from prior year quarter reduced to 20% instead of 50%
– Employer can elect to compare to immediately preceding quarter
– Employers not in existence for all or part of 2019 can use the credit

But the point here is that the old ERC is now available to any qualifying employers who had either a 50% reduction in gross revenue or were fully or partially shut down by government order — even if they received PPP funds. They just can’t double-dip on the payroll costs that were claimed for PPP forgiveness. And so for these employers, any remaining (non-PPP) payroll costs from 3/13-12/31/20 can now be claimed on the fourth-quarter payroll tax Form 941 and 50% of up to $10,000 per employee will be credited back to them. This is not small change for some employers!

The problem, of course, is that we have to act fast — the fourth-quarter 941 forms will be filed in a matter of a week or so, depending on your payroll company. They are all scrambling to find a way for us to report which wages are eligible… but in the meantime we need to get our clients ready.

The first step is to determine which clients are already taking the credit.

There are many fine payroll companies out there (actually, there aren’t), and Gusto is hands-down my favorite, and that of many of my colleagues. (And if you use my referral link you’ll get a $100 gift card when you run your first payroll by January 31. If you’re a bookkeeper or accountant wanting to switch your clients to Gusto, this referral link will get you a $500 gift card.)

So I’ve written up instructions with screen shots on how to look up which clients of yours using this system are already claiming the ERC. Once you know this, you can then 1) reach out to them to let them know they can now apply for the PPP, and 2) reach out to the ones who haven’t to let them know they might qualify.

Step One: log into your Gusto Accountant dashboard.
Step Two: click on “Clients” in the upper-left to see a list of your clients.
Step Three: you’ll need to click into each client and perform the following steps.

  1. Click “Covid-19” in the upper-left.
  2. Scroll past the new notice about the Consolidated Appropriations Act (see screenshot at top of blog post).
  3. There are a bunch of blocks of info on the different programs for which the client might be eligible. Click the “Claim credit” button for the Employee Retention Tax Credit.

4. You will see one of two screens — either it will say “You’re currently receiving the employee retention tax credit” or it won’t.

This is what it looks like if your client is already receiving it:

And this is what it looks like if they’re not:

If they’re not, and you’ve determined that they qualify (50% reduction of gross revenues over the same quarter in the prior year =OR= full/partial shutdown by the government), then click the button at the bottom of the screen to claim the credit and you’ll come to this screen next.

You’ll need to know the quarter in which they became eligible and had wages that qualified for the credit.

Once gross revenues climb back up to 80% of what the same-quarter prior-year revenues were, the client ceases to qualify and must stop taking the credit.

Again, remember that this is to claim wages paid from 3/13-12/31/20 (that were not paid for with PPP funds) on your fourth-quarter payroll tax Form 941. We do not yet know how Gusto (or any of the other payroll companies) will process this information, but given how soon they will need to be filed, it’s essential that we get our clients ready as quickly as possible, and this is Step Two — finding out if they’re already claiming it or not.

(In case it’s not obvious: Step One is determining if they qualify. We’re going through all our clients’ QuickBooks files to review for a 50% drop in gross revenue and then reaching out to clients accordingly, after determining whether they have taken the ERC already or not.)

Good luck!


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PPP2 Is Almost Here — Be Ready Or Risk Missing Out

For the past few weeks, we’ve been hearing in the news that Congress is coming closer to an agreement on another round of stimulus. It will be a more narrowly-targeted package than prior relief, but it will contain (at least the draft does) funding for the most important items: vaccine distribution; unemployment extension & federal supplement; stimulus checks; emergency food, rent & loan assistance; PPP loan forgiveness simplification; and our main topic here: another chance at PPP funding.

At this week’s AICPA Town Hall (free recording here), Lisa Simpson and Mark Peterson walked us through what is included in the current round of proposed legislation, and what it would mean for the next PPP program (popularly dubbed “PPP2”). They have encouraged us to share their slides and other resources.

Some of the notable elements are that 501(c)(6) organizations — including Chambers of Commerce — will be eligible for PPP this time, providing their lobbying efforts don’t exceed a certain threshold (10% as of now but that could change); and hospitality-industry chains will yet again be allowed to each apply for PPP as if they were independent hotels and restaurants (surprising after the negative press from the first round, but they have a loud voice in politics). Thankfully, the IRS and Congressional representatives are working together to include a provision for expenses paid for with PPP funds to be deductible — the current biggest obstacle for small businesses who receive(d) aid.

In addition, Lisa went through what we know so far about how the new PPP program will be structured and what eligibility requirements might look like. Keep in mind that this is all in draft at this point.

The idea is that if the gross revenues for any quarter in 2020 are down 30% or more over the same quarter in 2019, the business would be eligible for a second application for PPP funds, as long as they have 300 or fewer employees (per location, if in the hospitality industry). EIDL and PPP funds would not be included in this calculation, but no word yet on whether other aid, such as state, local or industry grants, would.

You do not have to apply for forgiveness for PPP1 before applying for PPP2 — in fact, we are still recommending that you hold off on your forgiveness application until Congress passes forgiveness simplification and tax deductibility of related expenses.

Nothing has been finalized yet and we don’t know all the details. But the AICPA has been meeting with politicians on both sides of the aisle and says that something is certainly going to be passed — it’s just a question of when, not if — and what the exact details will be.

It’s likely we’ll have news soon, and as such, it’s important that small business owners begin anticipating their next decision here, since time will likely be a factor — there is less capital in PPP2 than there was in the first round (which was exhausted in 6 days), so being prepared is key.

With that in mind — tips to consider if you might want to pursue additional PPP funding:

1) Have your books up-to-date and reconciled so you and your accountant can begin preparing your application the second the legislation drops.
2) There will be an eligibility hurdle for second-time PPP applicants. You will need to prove a 30% (as of now) drop in revenue — not profit, but gross revenue — in any quarter of 2020 compared to the same quarter in 2019. (If you didn’t get PPP funds in the first round and you want to this time, this rule does not apply.) The first round of PPP/EIDL does not count toward income for this purpose. No word yet on whether other grants may. Otherwise the calculations will be the same as in the first round.
3) I’m asking my interested clients to reach out to me to get their file set up in my CPA Business Funding Portal now, before legislation is passed, so we can just hit “submit” when the program opens, to try to get them in the first tranche of applicants.

(Note to other CPAs and accounting colleagues: this time around I am using AICPA-developed PPP application and forgiveness software, CPALoanPortal.com, so as to make the process for getting client funding less haphazard, more reliable, and more efficient. It’s free at the basic level, which allows you to apply for funding and forgiveness all in one portal, with a client dashboard. I’ve decided to pay to upgrade so I can use the payroll company reporting and AICPA FTE-calculator integrations. Their partner, Biz2Credit, was directly approved by SBA to lend money to small businesses; it’s not a third-party (like so many of the services we used first-time around who brokered loans as a middle-man). Looking forward to same-day PPP2 loan approvals, and disbursements within days. No I am not paid a cent to say any of this.)

Sincerely hoping the process goes more smoothly this time than it did in April!


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